011 Revolution Fan Podcast – Nobody’s Fault But Mine

In this episode of Revolution Fan Podcast, Tom, Jenn, Stephen and Shelley talk about Revolution season 1, episode 10, Nobody’s Fault But Mine. We talk about what we expect for the second half of the first season starting March 25th, 2013, and and we play and talk about your feedback.

Based on feedback from Chuck LaForte, we started with an episode recap.

In our discussion of  Nobody’s Fault But Mine, we covered:

  • Our general impressions. Jenn and Tom liked it, but Stephen was frustrated at some points. We liked the Miles and Monroe flashbackspodcast-150x150.jpg (150×150)
  • The M symbol on the arms, and how it was for Monroe and Matheson from when they were kids
  • Jenn and Stephen faced off about Rachel’s character
  • We talked again about Strausser’s torture of Rachel
  • Why Miles let Neville and Julia live, when we know they will probably be trouble for Miles in the future
  • The Neville and Aaron scene, where Neville thinks Aaron treated his employees the way he was treated as an employee
  • The Rachel and Miles reunion, and speculation on what happened between them
  • We hope we get some explanation of Rachel and the electricity, and about Rachel leaving and turning herself in, perhaps in the next episode
  • How much Charlie has changed since her journey began
  • Aaron using pipe bombs to blow a hole in foot-thick concrete
  • The M logo on the helicopters
  • How they got a helicopter in the air so quickly after the amplifier got activated. If they moved the amplifier into the helicopter, they had to move it very quickly.
  • How we didn’t see Jason or any Grace/Randall resolution

We talked about what we thought would be the main story arc for the second half of the first season. Will Miles be a full-fledged rebel, trying to take down the Monroe Militia?

We talked about who the “mine” was in the episode title, Nobody’s Fault But Mine.

We talked about the Revolution Revealed for this episode with Charlie’s abandonment issues, and the number of people Charlie has killed.

Stephen thought there was a homo-erotic tension to the Monroe/Miles relationship. Audrey from Texas emailed about this as well.

On the Interactive Map, the power plan was in Willow Grove, PA which is about 14 miles north of Central Philadelphia. They did not address how they were going to get out of Philadelphia and over/under/through the wall.

There was an interesting interview with Eric Kripke on Entertainment Weekly. He said they are going to “move the ball forward” so there is some character development in each episode.

We talked about how Rachel turned on the pendant, and whether it was Ben’s or Dr. Jaffe’s. We speculated on where they might find another pendant based on Randall’s map.

We played voicemails from Nate in Kansas and from Amanda in Boston. They both liked the episode and the show but they both thought the hiatus ended much earlier than March 25th. We wondered if NBC will re-air the 10 episodes between January and March.

Tom asked whether they dilate the actor’s eyes before shooting scenes in dark places.

If you are re-watching Revolution during the hiatus, be sure to listen to our older episodes in our archives.

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6 Responses to 011 Revolution Fan Podcast – Nobody’s Fault But Mine

  1. Kyle Pope says:

    If you are going to incorporate military helicopters into your story, you’d be a lot more convincing if you did some basic research on helicopters.

    What galled me most about this episode amongst the many other galling aspects of it was its general laziness in dealing with a major plot element. Monroe has collected some Bell UH-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_UH-1_Iroquois) helicopters, more commonly known as Hueys. These helicopters are the signature aircraft of the Vietnam War due to their extensive use in that conflict. It’s an older model machine superseded in military inventories by the UH-60 Blackhawk. With a pendant and Rachel’s amplifier one of these helicopters gets airborne and menaces our heroes with its minigun. Doubtless Monroe believes that having this fleet of warbirds will make him invincible and guarantee his conquest of North America and possibly beyond. Nice plan. Time to step on the cake.

    Of all the myriad machines produced by humanity across the ages none are more maintenance intensive than the helicopter. In the helicopter you have an aircraft that literally tries to shake itself apart every time it’s used. Therefore the maintenance regime is brutal. Monroe’s helicopters were sitting idle for 15+ years. Restoring them to airworthy condition would be a major undertaking under the best of circumstances. These are the worst of circumstances. Those birds’ airframes and engines would have to be stripped down to the last nut and bolt to be cleaned and inspected for fatigue and corrosion. Every seal, gasket, hose, belt and any other rubber or polymer part would have to be replaced and spare parts haven’t been manufactured for 15 years. Bearings would have seized long ago as their lubricants broke down requiring replacement. The helicopter’s most critical part, the rotor system, will be especially difficult to restore. The rotor blades are made of composite materials that would have separated and decayed after 15 years without maintenance. Fresh hydraulic fluids and jet fuel would have to be refined in quantities sufficient to support combat level air operations. And you need people who are qualified to do this and any of them you find are 15 years out of practice.

    The climax of the episode has our heroes looking up at the business end of the helicopter’s minigun as it spins up for action. Fortunately for our heroes the only thing that minigun can do is spin. Firing anything at them is currently out of the question. To be dangerous that minigun requires ammunition which is delivered to the weapon’s chambers by a feed chute as seen here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Avhuey_05.jpg). Those feed chutes were conspicuously absent from Monroe’s helicopters. No small oversight.

    Ultimately Monroe’s dreams of conquest are doomed if he’s counting on the pendants to provide him with ultimate power. Monroe can have, at most, 12 machines of any kind at his disposal if Rachel is to be believed. That’s assuming he collects all 12 pendants and builds amplifiers for each of them. During the Vietnam War we used helicopters extensively. The NVA and VC had no helicopters. Yet they managed to destroy 3,305 Hueys by war’s end. Most of these were brought down by small arms fire. Once Monroe’s enemies get over the initial shock of seeing these machines in action again, they’ll quickly rebound and start swatting them out of the sky like flies. And every helicopter Monroe loses takes a pendant and amplifier down with it. In the long run Monroe gains nothing. Asymmetrical warfare is the new normal today. People will be very good at it in that world. If Monroe wants to make those pendants useful he can use them to drive a communications network allowing his troops instantaneous contact with each other and HQ. With radio the militia can respond much faster to changing combat situations than their enemy can. This would be a far greater strategic and tactical advantage than having helicopters and tanks. It just wouldn’t look as cool as helicopters tearing up the countryside.

    As for the rest of the episode things were in keeping with the rest of the series. Strausser was so over the top that his death could have been seen the instant his character was introduced. Charlie sustains a near fatal head injury that appears and disappears in accordance with the plot. Militia troops fighting a major campaign without any personal equipment other than their weapons. How are they going through ammunition so fast if no one is carrying reloads? If the militia had taken the industrial capacity they devoted to making uniforms and turned out ammo instead they wouldn’t be in this mess. Aaron should be dead. First he strikes sparks near where the fuses enter the bombs. If the fuse had caught the bombs would have detonated immediately. As it was Aaron ran about 50 feet away from the bombs, turned his back and crouched. There is no cover between himself and pipe bombs. Pipe bombs are as nasty as they are because the metal pipe that holds the explosive is strong enough to allow the pressure inside the bomb to reach maximal levels before the pipe fails releasing the explosive force. The casing forms deadly shrapnel that is thrown with exceptionally high force shredding anything in its path. This is why pipe bombs are preferred by terrorists and extremists. They are very effective anti-personnel weapons. They are, however, not so good at blowing holes in reinforced concrete. That’s what shaped charges are for. That wall would just have thrown more of the explosive force back at Aaron.

    NBC is certainly taking a big gamble on this hiatus. A lot is going to depend on what the other networks put up against Revolution when it returns. I didn’t really see anything in this episode that is going to keep people eagerly anticipating the rest of the season.

  2. Tom Snively says:

    Good points. They will probably all get away from the helicopter. Maybe as soon as they come back from hiatus, smoke will start to come out of the helicopter and it was land or crash because of the non-maintenance or bad fuel. 🙂


    • Kyle Pope says:

      Or bad piloting. Any helicopter pilot they dig up will be 15 years non-current. I am a private pilot of fixed wing aircraft. I can tell you from personal experience that a helicopter is a very difficult aircraft to fly, especially in the hovering regime. Keeping it in the air and stable requires your full and undivided attention. Fighting with a helicopter is a very specialized skill that army and marine pilots spend years learning and further years practicing to keep their skills current.

      We know they get away. The preview spoiled that. Plus they’re the heroes. Miles even gets his hands on an AT4 anti-tank missile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT4). And if they call it a Stinger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger) in the show I’ll be very disappointed. They’re two very different weapon systems. At close range though an AT4 can drop a helicopter. The Blackhawk helicopter in Blackhawk Down was brought down by an RPG-7 which is also an anti-armor weapon.

      • Rob Kearney says:

        Again with the “It’s not 100% accurate therefore it’s crap”

        Now know how my wife feels when I nitpick her TV shows when they have sometimes have SWAT guys and they all have the “Chicken Wing” or they flag the guys in front of them.

        You do see the thing at the top of the page where it says “Fan Podcast” right?? Sites like these are for those of us that look past the inaccuracies of the mechanics and technical aspects and can enjoy the story being told. I’m sure there are threads on IMDB where people rip apart the show yet still come back every week to watch.

        • Kyle Pope says:

          It’s not crap because it’s not 100% accurate. Star Wars is 0% accurate yet it’s a classic of film making. It’s a film people will be watching and learning from through the ages like Gone with the Wind, Casablanca or Citizen Kane. Revolution is a cheap copy of someone else’s better ideas and it admits to being so. Kripke openly states that he is recreating the quest adventures of Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.

          Revolution’s single greatest offense is insulting the viewer’s intelligence with its glaring plot holes and lack of attention to detail. It assumes we know nothing, think nothing and see nothing except what the creators need us to. This is always a bad idea in storytelling. This show wasn’t thought through before it was thrown onto the screen. A previous science fiction show called Terra Nova had a fascinating initial concept. Colonists from a future dying Earth seek a second chance at civilization 85 million years in the past. This concept was rich in story ideas. It also had humans running from dinosaurs. How could you go wrong? Simple actually. You turn it into a family soap opera. Terra Nova is now dead and a lot of people are happy about that. We wanted to see humans interacting with dinosaurs with all the complications that would involve. What we got was the “Go Away Spider” song.

          How human society would develop in the absence of electricity is an interesting idea to explore. This show isn’t exploring that idea. Electricity may as well be the Force given how this show treats it. Huey helicopters aren’t the Revolution equivalent of the Death Star no matter how dramatically they’re filmed. The only thing the militia has in common with Imperial Stormtroopers is their shared inability to hit a human sized target 20 feet away with an automatic weapon.

          Star Wars was the work of a creative genius in his prime. Revolution is a Star Wars fanfic.

  3. Rob Kearney says:

    So naysaying aside, I thought this was a great episode and can’t wait for the show to return. I want to see how the Rebels deal with Miles now that all the redshirts they sent with him are dead, I’m sure that’ll lead to an awkward conversation. I see team Miles being on the run from everyone now. Also I can’t wait to see the story arc with Julia and Neville, I want to see him (after being pushed by his wife) try and take over the Militia… and what will Jeremy do??

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