007 Revolution Fan Podcast – Sex and Drugs

podcast-150x150.jpg (150×150)In this episode of Revolution Fan Podcast, Tom, Jenn, Shelley and Stephen talk about Revolution season 1, episode 6, Sex and Drugs. We talk about Hurricane Sandy and how that affected us and Northeast US viewers. We also talk about the official NBC site’s Footnotes and Interactive Map.

Revolution aired during Hurricane Sandy when many people in the Northeast United States were losing power, or the show was pre-empted by news coverage. However, it did not seem that rating suffered from viewership. We talked about the similarities to Revolution with no power, no gas deliveries, and no supermarket deliveries.

Tom talked about the Indiana and Ohio locations on the NBC Revolution Interactive Map. We also talked about NBC Revolution’s Footnotes. NBC puts out an entry for each episode. In episode 3, No Quarter, the entry is a log of happenings on Parris Island, which mentioned that two helicopters crashed at the time of the blackout. We had a discussion of whether helicopters could land in the case of a power failure. In the episode 5 for Soul Train, the entry was an article from the Noblesville Gazette called “A Future On the Line” which explained why it took 15 years to get a steam locomotive working. In this episode, the entry was a tech magazine article called “Five Questions with Aaron Pittman.”

Stephen reported the 3-4 month hiatus that NBC announced between November or December until March. There are 22 episodes and 52 weeks in the year, so there has to be many weeks with no new episode, but it seems NBC will make many of them consecutive.

In our discussion of Sex and Drugs, we covered:

  • Aaron’s back story, starting with the unimportant car crash
  • the scene with Monroe and Danny, and Monroe’s offer as his guest. “How about freedom?”
  • Neville’s promotion from Captain to Major, and how he is still is a far way from “high up in the military.” Jason’s rank was Lieutenant, which is not very far from Captain.
  • Drexel and Miles’s history
  • How NBC cut the preview for this episode to mislead us: Miles’s choice was not about prostituting Charlie to get penicillin for Nora
  • Drexel’s heroin business and how he co-exists with the militia
  • Why Charlie chose to kill Bill O’Halloran, thinking it was the only way to save the rest of her group. And also, wouldn’t it have been better character development if she did kill him
  • Why Drexel’s men didn’t do anything when Aaron shot Drexel, and if they didn’t like him, why they didn’t kill Drexel himself
  • Aaron’s choice to abandon his wife and leave his group 8 months after the blackout, and how we will see Aaron’s wife again
  • Aaron’s strategy of shooting himself in his flask, in order to get Drexel closer to the point where he could shoot and kill him
  • Danny and Rachel’s reunion
  • How the title, Sex and Drugs was strange because there wasn’t any sex and there really wasn’t that much about drugs

We talked about the preview for next week’s episode regarding pendants, and what the bright light is that Miles and company react to. Stephen conjectures that it is arclight. Ben and his partners created the device; but something could cost millions of lives. It seems we are also finally going to find out what happened to Grace, which we haven’t seen since episode 2, Chained Heat.

Stephen talks about JJ Abrams’s TED Talk and “the mystery box.”

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3 Responses to 007 Revolution Fan Podcast – Sex and Drugs

  1. Jim Miller says:

    Hi Guys, Just finished listening to your ‘Sex and Drugs’ podcast. I also listen to the GMS podcast and the AfterBuzz video podcast. They are all good, but you guys are my favorite.

    You mentioned you got very little feedback for this episode. I have noticed a significant drop in comments elsewhere, too. The official NBC revolution Forum is very quiet these days. The activity on the RevolutionTVShow.com forum, which has usually been the most active forum I’ve found, is also down compared to a few weeks ago. There seems to be fewer comments on the GSM site as well. I think a good topic for a future podcast would be to speculate on causes for this drop in activity.


    • Kyle Pope says:

      I suspect that Superstorm Sandy might be contributing to the damping of forum activity. At least for any fans on the Eastern Seaboard.

  2. Kyle Pope says:

    This was a bad episode. No other way to say it. From NBC’s misleading promo to the writers lack of research regarding key plot elements to bad decision making on the part of the characters this installment does not bode well for the quality of future episodes.

    Episode promos are supposed to tease the audience to get them to watch. This time though NBC lied. The promo suggested a completely different story than the one we got. So much for Charlie being prostituted in exchange for the medical treatment Nora desperately needs. Turns out it’s a cliched side story about a criminal wanting to do away with a rival.

    If you’re going to use medical conditions in your story it would benefit you to do some basic research on those conditions to make sure they’re appropriate. Someone on this episode forgot to do this. Aaron’s wife, Priscilla, contracts dysentery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysentery) from drinking contaminated water. Sean comes along and gives her a sip of water from his canteen and all is well. Didn’t anybody bother to research dysentery on Google or WebMD? Dysentery is not a disease in itself but a symptom of numerous possible disorders. It simply refers to an inflammation of the colon producing profuse bloody diarrhea. If Priscilla developed it after drinking water contaminated by sewage then that cause is likely cholera ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera) and in this world cholera is a death sentence. As it is treating dysentery is a prolonged process requiring hospitalization depending on the cause. Priscilla got off easy compared to Nora though. Nora was diagnosed with septic shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septic_Shock) from an infected stab wound. Supposedly all it took to cure her was a blood transfusion, some penicillin and a shot of adrenaline. If only it were that simple. Septic shock is the complete disruption of metabolic functions resulting from a massive infection. Sufferers require hospitalization in intensive care because their organs are shutting down. The mortality rate under modern conditions is 25 – 50%. In this new world Nora didn’t have a chance. Aaron casually mentions that he might have a broken rib after his little shooting stunt. You’d think a broken rib was no worse than a hangnail given how unaffected Aaron appeared to be. A broken rib is a serious and seriously painful injury. If the rib is free floating at one end it could easily tear into a lung or into the heart. Aaron needs a hospital. You can’t just page through a medical dictionary to come up with scary diseases to give your characters without factoring in the consequences of contracting that disease. You have to think this all the way through.

    Charlie was circling the drain as a character in this episode. Instead of the whining albatross she’s been so far, she takes a turn to the Dark Side in this time around. Aaron attempts to comfort her and she jumps down his throat. She agrees to undertake an assassination mission for Drexel. And just to make sure we don’t miss the point of just how far Charlie has fallen, the show hammers the audience over the head with images of O’Halloran playing with his grand-daughter. We learn of his history as a cop from a family of cops. We hear of the tragic death of his daughter from an overdose of Drexel’s heroin. Ok NBC, we got it. O’Halloran is as innocent a victim as can exist in this world and only a complete monster would consider murdering him. Charlie gives us the much anticipated gratuitous nude shot as she symbolically sheds her innocence by shredding her collection of postcards. Now I am no prude and I can appreciate the sight of a beautiful naked woman as much as anybody but this is network television. It was highly unlikely that we were going to see Charlie in a way that makes seeing a naked woman worth the effort. A tease was all we were ever going to get. So what was the point beyond titillation? Perhaps more welcome than seeing Charlie naked was seeing her get punched in the face. If you set up your lead character to get popped in the chops and fan reaction to it is along the lines of “It’s about time”, you need to rethink your main character. Clearly she is not generating much empathy in the viewership.

    Miles took a hit in this episode as well. The more we learn about him, the less of a hero he becomes. Now I understand the concept of redemption. I understand atonement. But there are limits. Miles is advancing rapidly into Eichmann (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann) territory with tales of rape, slaughter, drug trafficking and other atrocities that accompanied the rise of the Monroe Republic. There’s a point of no return when it comes to a dark past. When the blood of millions stains your hands, atonement is not something you can achieve in a single lifetime. His tactical planning ability seemed to fly out the window. The only person who needed to go to Drexel’s was Nora. There was no reason for Aaron and Charlie to be there. Since Miles knew he was headed into the territory of a potential enemy you’d think it would occur to him to minimize the group’s exposure to harm by leaving Aaron and Charlie in the woods somewhere and taking Nora in alone. If Miles felt comfortable he could send for Charlie and Aaron later. Otherwise they’d be safer elsewhere.

    Aaron came out the worst in this episode. Initially useless and pathetic, Aaron’s backstory reveals him to be a completely contemptible parasite. A Google billionaire before the Blackout, he falls long and hits hard in its aftermath. Blessed with a wife that truly adores him despite the loss of his fortune and his inability to keep her safe in this hostile environment, Aaron is so wrapped up in his feelings of inadequacy and self pity that he abandons her at a time when she needs him the most. Ironically Aaron went on to survive on his own quite well for nearly a decade and a half when we find him living comfortably in Sylvania Estates. So why abandon her in the first place unless his survival strategy consists of latching onto groups and convincing them to take care of him with no benefit to themselves? And despite what must have been an incredible ordeal, Aaron has not changed at all since the Blackout. He’s still naive and as ignorant of even basic survival skills as he was that night. Does Aaron have any ambition towards adapting himself to this new environment? Did it ever occur to him that he might be able to learn the skills he needed from the others in the group? I’ve been through a survival course. These skills aren’t that hard to learn. They certainly would have been eager to teach him so he could pull his weight. Aaron is presented as the stereotypical Hollywood geek whose intelligence is high but only in a narrowly defined area of expertise. Real intelligence doesn’t work that way. The advanced ability to think and problem solve is applicable over a wide range of situations. If Aaron could learn to code well enough to start a business and make a fortune at it in a highly competitive industry then he can learn to start a fire. On top of all of this, Aaron’s previous act of stupidity has resulted in Monroe painting a bullseye on him and sending Sgt Strausser to carve it off.

    The plot and resolution of the episode was patently insulting. Of all the ways to have handled this problem this bunch decided to go with the worst one available. Did Charlie really believe that after killing O’Halloran she’d be able to walk out of that compound unharmed? Did it occur to her to simply ask O’Halloran, a trained cop with heavily armed companions and a grudge against Drexel, for help? How did Miles not see it was a suicide mission out of the gate and warn Charlie before she could agree to it? How did Miles know where Charlie and O’Halloran were? Did Aaron seriously believe that a pewter flask made of soft sheet metal would stop a .38 Special round at point blank range? With regard to the .38 Special round, it does not have a low muzzle velocity. It is a deadly round even from a snub nose and one of the big four usually mentioned for a personal defense handgun along with .45 ACP, 9mm and .357 Magnum. It was the universally accepted round for police work from 1920 to 1990. Aaron’s little trick should have killed him.

    Regarding military rank structure. Since Monroe was a marine he is probably using the Marine Corps rank structure within the militia. The officer rank structure is identical between the Marines, Army and Air Force. The Navy and Coast Guard have their own structures. Officer progression is as follows: 2nd Lieutenant (O-1) > 1st Lieutenant (O-2) > Captain (O-3) > Major (O-4) > Lieutenant Colonel (O-5) > Colonel (O-6) > Brigadier General (O-7) > Major General (O-8) > Lieutenant General (O-9) > General (O-10). There is a five star rank but that was used only during wartime and rarely even then. The rank was retired in 1981. Enlisted ranks are unique to each service and we haven’t seen enough enlisted personnel to ascertain their rank structure. It is also possible that Monroe is also using Warrant Officers in the militia as well. Further information and listing of military ranks throughout the world can be found here:


    With such a rich premise Revolution doesn’t need filler episodes like this. Very little plot advancement took place and what character development there was made the characters worse. Given that the show is taking a four month hiatus they could be aware of these structural flaws and want to pull the show in for some major retooling. We may get a different and, hopefully, better Revolution out the other side. I can but hope because in its current state I don’t see Revolution being able to sustain its current ratings.

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